The Gov Body is apostate, having joined the U.N. as a Non-Government Organization and stayed in it 10 years till 2001, keeping this secret from most members, and now having withdrawn officially though not necessarily even now full "unofficially" after exposed on the internet. Their saying they were in the U.N. to have a library card for the U.N. library to do research is easily seen through, for they had Watchtower reps to use the NGO status to get invitations to sit on U.N. Human Rights Commissions and other U.N. benefits that accrued such as diplomatic mission passes. Just wait until the regular JWs find out. This and the child rape exposure and other things point to the fact that they are apostates.
nancee park
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Why Jehovah is not using the GB
by Omega Man inthis is why i have a problem believing jehovah is using the gb.
1) 1914 - some would still be alive when jehovah brings the end - this has changed.
2) within our 20th century jehovah will begin the end of the system of things...p.s we are now in the 21st century.
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Spanish - Anyone? Need some Help....
by Adonai438 inmy husband has a new co-worker that has struck up conversation with him regarding jws.. she is a jw and knows he's a christian and is trying to talk with him.
no problem right?
my husband and i have been ministering to jws for 7 years now and this shouldn't be a problem-- .
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nancee park
This is in Spanish then also in English, and it will tell any JW the real truth about the holidays. Tell me if you need more on other topics at [email protected] :
"HALLOWEEN" Y OTROS DIAS DE CELEBRACION: Halloween, similar al dia de los muertos en Latinoamerica, vino de la Tarde de Todos los Santificado, es decir la tarde cuando los padres dieron la ropas a los nios para que ellos pudieron resemblar como santos para animarles a que sean mas buenos personas, los "pranks" normalmente inofensivos viniendo de Irlanda donde pueden o pudieron no haber venido de paganos incluso es correcto tocante a los anillos de bodas, nombres de los das, meses, algunos nombres cristianos en la biblia como Apollos y Jason que tambin vininieron de paganos. Las personas opuestas a la Navidad admiten a veces que Cristo probablemente fue nacido el 2 de octubre, pero porque porqu ellos no hacen caso de si una persona conta detrs 9 meses para el concepto normal o el nacimiento genetico de Jesucristo llega al ltimo de diciembre? Por qu insista Navidad es del Saturnalia pagano cuando Juan 10:22-3 dice que Cristo tambin celebr el festival del esmero o de las luces, es decir Hannukah, que a la primera vez comenz Diciembre 25 pero ha variado hasta hoy porque sta basado en el calendario lunar? Job 1:3, 3:1-3 muestra que los ninos de Job celebr cumpleaos si usted lea los tres versos para ver la fecha de nacimiento esta significado. En Lucas 2 los ngeles mismos celebraron el nacimiento de Cristo. Santa Claus es de Santo Nicholas, una anciano que donaba regalos y tuvo robas rojas y blancas durante las Edades Medias, no de un mago o dios pagano.
La palabra Pascua es Easter en ingles y su origen inglesa se puede ser tambien de la palabra anglosajona para el Oriente que es East en ingles, y el cristianismo vino del Oriente a Inglaterra. Es incorrecto decir que vino definidamente del nombre de la diosa pagana nombrado Eastre. Los huevos possiblemente vinieron del huevo judo de la Pascua (Passover en ingles) no necesario de los paganos. Los huevos y los conejos que usan durante Pascua/Easter ms probablemente fueron usado por los cristianos tempranos para simbolizar la esperanza de la nueva vida por el resurrection, con menos posibilidad que vinieron de vesiges de rites paganismos para la fertilidad o de practicas sexuales! Por qu dicen los oposadores que das de fiesta son compromisos terribles cuando de hecho atacaron y substituyeron en lugar de los paganismos, especialmente puesto que Colossenses 2:16 dice no dej ninguno juzgarle a Uds. alrededor de un da de fiesta o un sabado? Galatias 5:22 dice que uno de las frutas del Espiritu Santa es la goza.
HALLOWEEN AND OTHER HOLIDAYS: Halloween came from All Hallows (Holy Ones/Saints) Evening when parents had children dress as saints to encourage them to be good, the normally harmless pranks coming from Ireland where they may or may not have come from pagans even as wedding rings, names of days, months, some Christian names in the Bible like Apollos and Jason also came from pagans. Persons opposed to Christmas sometimes admit that Christ was likely born about Oct 2, so why do they ignore counting back 9 months for normal conception or genetic-level birth means he was born in late December? Why insist Christmas is from the pagan Saturnalia when John 10:22-3 says Christ also celebrated the Festival of Dedication or Lights, i.e. Hannukah, which first began Dec 25 but has varied since because lunar-based? Job 1:3, 3:1-3 show Job's kids celebrated birthdays if you read all 3 verses to see day of birth is meant. At Luke 2 angels themselves celebrated Christ's birth. Santa is from Saint Nicholas, an actual red-robed Christian gift-giving elder of the Middle Ages, not a wizard or pagan god.
The word Easter may as easily be from the Anglo-Saxon word eastern (Christianity came from East of England) as from the goddess Eastre, the eggs as likely from the Jewish passover egg as from paganry, common sense saying early Christians more likely using eggs and rabbits to symbolize the hope for new life by resurrection than as vesiges of pagan fertility or sex rites! Why does any person call compromises holidays that attacked and replaced paganisms especially since Colossians 2:16 says let none judge you about a holiday or Sabbaths? Galatians 5:22 says that one of the fruits of the Holy Spirit is joy!
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Halloween........
by happy2b ini just started posting and have really enjoyed it!
i know i gave the title as halloween.
well, it's because halloween is 64 days away.
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nancee park
This is in Spanish then also in English, and it will tell any JW the real truth about the holidays. Tell me if you need more on other topics at [email protected] :
"HALLOWEEN" Y OTROS DIAS DE CELEBRACION: Halloween, similar al dia de los muertos en Latinoamerica, vino de la Tarde de Todos los Santificado, es decir la tarde cuando los padres dieron la ropas a los nios para que ellos pudieron resemblar como santos para animarles a que sean mas buenos personas, los "pranks" normalmente inofensivos viniendo de Irlanda donde pueden o pudieron no haber venido de paganos incluso es correcto tocante a los anillos de bodas, nombres de los das, meses, algunos nombres cristianos en la biblia como Apollos y Jason que tambin vininieron de paganos. Las personas opuestas a la Navidad admiten a veces que Cristo probablemente fue nacido el 2 de octubre, pero porque porqu ellos no hacen caso de si una persona conta detrs 9 meses para el concepto normal o el nacimiento genetico de Jesucristo llega al ltimo de diciembre? Por qu insista Navidad es del Saturnalia pagano cuando Juan 10:22-3 dice que Cristo tambin celebr el festival del esmero o de las luces, es decir Hannukah, que a la primera vez comenz Diciembre 25 pero ha variado hasta hoy porque sta basado en el calendario lunar? Job 1:3, 3:1-3 muestra que los ninos de Job celebr cumpleaos si usted lea los tres versos para ver la fecha de nacimiento esta significado. En Lucas 2 los ngeles mismos celebraron el nacimiento de Cristo. Santa Claus es de Santo Nicholas, una anciano que donaba regalos y tuvo robas rojas y blancas durante las Edades Medias, no de un mago o dios pagano.
La palabra Pascua es Easter en ingles y su origen inglesa se puede ser tambien de la palabra anglosajona para el Oriente que es East en ingles, y el cristianismo vino del Oriente a Inglaterra. Es incorrecto decir que vino definidamente del nombre de la diosa pagana nombrado Eastre. Los huevos possiblemente vinieron del huevo judo de la Pascua (Passover en ingles) no necesario de los paganos. Los huevos y los conejos que usan durante Pascua/Easter ms probablemente fueron usado por los cristianos tempranos para simbolizar la esperanza de la nueva vida por el resurrection, con menos posibilidad que vinieron de vesiges de rites paganismos para la fertilidad o de practicas sexuales! Por qu dicen los oposadores que das de fiesta son compromisos terribles cuando de hecho atacaron y substituyeron en lugar de los paganismos, especialmente puesto que Colossenses 2:16 dice no dej ninguno juzgarle a Uds. alrededor de un da de fiesta o un sabado? Galatias 5:22 dice que uno de las frutas del Espiritu Santa es la goza.
HALLOWEEN AND OTHER HOLIDAYS: Halloween came from All Hallows (Holy Ones/Saints) Evening when parents had children dress as saints to encourage them to be good, the normally harmless pranks coming from Ireland where they may or may not have come from pagans even as wedding rings, names of days, months, some Christian names in the Bible like Apollos and Jason also came from pagans. Persons opposed to Christmas sometimes admit that Christ was likely born about Oct 2, so why do they ignore counting back 9 months for normal conception or genetic-level birth means he was born in late December? Why insist Christmas is from the pagan Saturnalia when John 10:22-3 says Christ also celebrated the Festival of Dedication or Lights, i.e. Hannukah, which first began Dec 25 but has varied since because lunar-based? Job 1:3, 3:1-3 show Job's kids celebrated birthdays if you read all 3 verses to see day of birth is meant. At Luke 2 angels themselves celebrated Christ's birth. Santa is from Saint Nicholas, an actual red-robed Christian gift-giving elder of the Middle Ages, not a wizard or pagan god.
The word Easter may as easily be from the Anglo-Saxon word eastern (Christianity came from East of England) as from the goddess Eastre, the eggs as likely from the Jewish passover egg as from paganry, common sense saying early Christians more likely using eggs and rabbits to symbolize the hope for new life by resurrection than as vesiges of pagan fertility or sex rites! Why does any person call compromises holidays that attacked and replaced paganisms especially since Colossians 2:16 says let none judge you about a holiday or Sabbaths? Galatians 5:22 says that one of the fruits of the Holy Spirit is joy!
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JW Fears
by freedom96 ini was laughing at the thread talking about the blue smurfs, how demonic they were.
:) it made me remember other stupid phobias the witnesses had, and how easy rumours were to spead around.
one for instance, was the false rumour about proctor and gamble, and how their business emblem/ picture/ whatever you call it was demonic, and how it was the sign of the devil, and to stay away from anything to do with that company.
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nancee park
However there are real spying and harassment.
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Kazakhstan: Muslim Villagers Lash Out at JWs
by Rado Vleugel ina religious conflict is brewing in a small south kazakstan village whose muslim residents are increasingly angry at the recruiting methods of the jehovah's witnesses.
the villagers complain that the witnesses entice the community's children to join its ranks by offering them chocolates and sweets to attend services.
with the kidnapping of six jehovahs witnesses in the philippines, of whom two are beheaded, this is the second clash between jehovahs witnesses and muslims within a few weeks.
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nancee park
The Watchtower Society appears to be pushing more recruitment even in dangerous parts of the planet as recruiting of new members is less successful in the West. More blood guilt.
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WTS Changes Media Info on DF'ing
by FreePeace ini don't know if this has already been posted (as i don't visit as much anymore).
the wts has changed the info in the faq section of their media site,
http://www.jw-media.org/beliefs/beliefsfaq.htm
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nancee park
The Watchtower Society's saying "Those who simply leave the faith are not shunned" is a lie. Those who disassociate are definitely shunned and their phrase "who simply leave the faith" entails them.
It shows that they are now on the defensive over the shunning policy especially in wake of the Silentlambs disfellowshippings. They are extremely sensitive to the newspapers like the St Petersburg one which are correctly informing the public, thus drying up new member sources.
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The More xJW Discussion Boards The Better!
by IslandWoman inbboyneko's discussion board fills an xjw need.
channel c fills an xjw need.
jwd fills an xjw need.
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nancee park
The expression "divided we stand" is less correct than "diversified we stand." We are united although free to enjoy diversity in views. There are red, yellow, black, brown and white-skinned humans but they are all united in that they are all humans. Who made them different colors? Who gave us freedom to differ in views?
The One whom the Watchtower Society has done its best to sully the good name or person of, God Almighty Himself whether you say Jah, Yah, Yahweh, Jehovah, Lord, or heavenly Father. We stand for Christian Freedom per Romans 14:6 while they stand for robotic sameness, blandness. Freedom is from God, tyranny is from Satan.
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Witnesses and pedophile site
by Guest 77 injust curious to know how many are aware of this site.. http://gwest59.tripod.com/christislord/id33.html.
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nancee park
They reorganized into several new corporations in the U.S. hoping it would make it harder for suing parties to win their assets (cash, land, buildings, printing presses), but the right lawsuits could do the job. Figure it for yourself, if the Catholic Church worries about keeping its assets over pedophile priests, how much more so the Watchtower Society heads regarding the pedophiles they protect who go door-to-door trying to do so at every single door at least once a year!
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Any Missouri Apostates Out There?
by Robdar insince the people in nashville are doing it, i want to do it too.
does anybody live in or around the kansas city, missouri area?
let's get together, drink, play a few rounds of strip poker (j/k) (well, maybe not) and talk apostate stuff.
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nancee park
Click on the following link and sign up for meeting up with other exJWs in the Kansas City area. There are at least three already signed up for K.C. and four for St. Louis, Missouri.
Unfortunately you do not get the others' emails, just a list of 3 possible places likes cafes from which you and the other 3 have to vote for which one to go to, as you will see when you get there. On the other hand, if you want I can give your email in the Free Christians News and ask that other exJWs near KC contact you. Then if some respond I can share your emails with you, you can phone and work out a time and place. Whatever you want. If interested email me at
Or third, start advertising around K.C. for exJWs to contact you, and if you do so often enough some will.
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DISPROVE THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE
by minimus inone of the most ingrained things for long time witnesses to change their viewpoint on is the fds.
i believe that due to the constant information at the meetings, conventions, publications and elder's talks, the doctrine of the faithful slave is pounded into everyone's heads.once a person sees the misunderstanding of this teaching, it's easier to critically see the wrongness of the watchtower.
can you suggest easier, less complicated rebuttals to this doctrine?
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nancee park
I made 3 solid points and WTS Double Agent007's "tork outa their choc. starfish" effort to distract can't take them away. They stand.